raymond orio, with the eternal word television network, covering faith and religion in this country right now. can you tell us what you think the significance of this announcement is? it comes as a shock to us this morning. >> look, it's shocking to me, and i have covered this pope his entire pontificate, but when he was in the previous office he held as cardinal ratzinger, i had the only english interview with this pope at length before his election. it is curious to watch this unfo unfold. because at that time, cardinal ratzinger wanted to retire in 'the 90, '93, again in '96, up to '99. he declined each time, stopped himself and didn't retire, because of the example of the previous pope he told me in an interview, so to watch this -- i have to say, i'm taken attack by it as a journal and it's personally know itting the background and knowing his vision of wanting to reform the church and realizing he is side by side with john paul during his long convalescence, this is a pope that died before the world. taught the world how to die. a real shock to many catholics around the world and i